“To insist on unanimity is as unBaptist as to cower in silence.” -Frank Tupper
The quote above was taken from a post that went up on Homebrewed Christianity’s website today. Dr. Frank Tupper, a Professor of Theology at Wake Divinity School, had submitted a proposal for a workshop that would create some open conversation among Cooperative Baptists at this week’s CBF General Assembly Gathering in Houston July 2-3.
A few months prior to this week’s gathering CBF decided that this sort of conversation could best be addressed in local churches rather than at a General Assembly gathering. As a Cooperative Baptist minister I am not surprised by this. I am, however, disappointed.
I can appreciate to a certain point CBF’s justification that this is a local church conversation. That’s a very Baptist response. However, as Tupper argues in his post, creating space for church leaders to discuss it, and wrestle with how to bring the conversation before their congregations is the missing link in local church conversations about homosexuality, same-sex unions, and sexuality in general.
I can tell you as a CBF minister that conversations concerning homosexuality within the local church have the greatest potential to end one’s career. Yes, even among moderate Baptist congregations, “acceptance” still has a very clear and often impenetrable barrier. Leaving the conversation up to the local congregation in my opinion is a cop-out. What’s worse, it leaves CBF ministers exposed — especially if they happen to be outspoken about embracing homosexuals as people made in God’s image.
I am disappointed that CBF leaders are misusing the Baptist distinctive of local church autonomy to avoid a responsibility to lead out in genuine conversation about a significant challenge that faces the church today. What’s more, they taint that principle by setting their ministers up to fail should they raise the conversation on their own. This makes it easy for congregations to assume they’re dealing with the will and whim of an individual, as opposed to their being participants in a larger conversation deemed important by their CBF community of churches.
Conversation about homosexuality, and even sexuality as a whole, have always been a source of significant anxiety for Baptists. Denying their importance and simply leaving it up to ministers to face on their own amidst already insecure congregations (due to decline and the culture shift) is a recipe for disaster.
I have a significant amount of respect for CBF, and have been a part of that fellowship for over a decade. However, as in any good friendship, speaking the truth can be painful. CBF, you are letting me and others like me down by not having the courage to make space for conversations about homosexuality & sexual identity as part of the national CBF discourse. Yes, its a messy and challenging conversation. Conversations about human dignity, relationality, and the scandalous love of God always are. Yet openness to receive the other and enter into dialog is what sets us (CBF) apart from other organizations that prefer to dictate doctrine and practice. Which brings us back to the quote at the beginning of this post.
Be not afraid CBF! You were formed in exile as a people who sought to preserve Baptist freedoms at a time when they were being taken away. Help us exercise that freedom by making space for the difficult conversations facing the church today regarding homosexuality and sexual identity.
For those of you interested in following the proposed discussion by Dr. Frank Tupper, he will be running a series of posts at the Homebrewed Christianity site.

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July 1, 2009 at 4:00 pm
pomopirate
Thanks Zach. I totally dug that exile line. ZING!
July 1, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Jo Ann Goodson
First of all I applaud Dr. Frank Tupper for his wisdom and courage to want to pursue this subject. Dr. Tupper is the author of two books that so inspired me. I know him to be a lover of freedom for himself and for others. His love for lay ministers is always evident and to watch him mentor and coach his students is very heart warming and a model for us all. I am very disappointed in CBF for not allowing this conversation to take place. In these times we need folks of courage, as Dr. Tupper, Tony Campolo and many others. I have participated in conversations on this subject and yes it is very difficult but lets face it folks, the Holy Spirit gives us the strength, energy and courage to undertake difficult matters. When I must speak before a group I am shaking like a leaf but I do it any way. Why? Because I have needed to and I also needed to know that God was indeed with me. I will be looking forward to the podcasts on Homebrewed Christianity. That website and this one has proven not to be afraid to challenge us and to bring to us those we can learn from. Shame on you CBF. Now “repent” and do what you should be doing. Get some help if you need it but turn yourselves around. Have the courage to be God’s people in a world that needs mending. Thank you my dear friend Zach Roberts for this posting.
July 1, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Natanael Disla
I think CBF and ABCUSA will have to talk about these issues in the years to come. I have not understand why Baptists have been silent about these issues for so long.
July 1, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Jennifer H.
Amen! Thank YOU for not being silent!
July 1, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Justin
Zach Said:–”I can tell you as a CBF minister that conversations concerning homosexuality within the local church have the greatest potential to end one’s career. Yes, even among moderate Baptist congregations, “acceptance” still has a very clear and often impenetrable barrier. Leaving the conversation up to the local congregation in my opinion is a cop-out. What’s worse, it leaves CBF ministers exposed —”
Along with the “DITTO” on Tripp’s first response, I totally agree with this line. In their attempt to “support the local church”, they are indeed, leaving the local minister and perhaps the churches as a whole out in the cold…esp. dealing with this issue. I’m not saying they should just take a stance and get it over with, rather having the bigger corperation MODEL and make it OK to have these conversations would, in the long run, be far more beneficial to the local church than a laissez faire attitude!!
July 2, 2009 at 12:25 am
Justin
@ Nathanael
I agree with what you are saying, but I would like to point out that not ALL baptists have been silent about this issue:) Unfortunately, those baptists are not in need nor do they desire fruitful conversation on the topic. Their minds have been made up…meaning they’ve spoken out (very loudly) about it for years and have effectively misrepresented the very mixed (and mostly undiscovered) views on the topic by Baptists as a whole. Another reason why it is crucial for us to be having these conversations on ALL levels!
Good point though, I have talked with many churches that say, “it’s not a big deal, we just don’t talk about it.” I’m like ummm… yeah, that’s a problem! You can only avoid the issue for so long, and sitting the fence, in my experience, only tends to make the process and outcome far more painful the longer one plays both sides either through manipulation or avoidance.
July 2, 2009 at 12:30 am
Natanael Disla
Thanks for your proper comment, Justin. But they are not the majority, don’t they? Welcoming And Affirming Baptist falls into this category you refer?
July 2, 2009 at 12:48 am
Justin
because of the taboo-ness of the subject, I think the verdict is still out in who is in the majority on this subject who also refer to themselves as “Baptist”.
July 2, 2009 at 6:44 am
pomopirate
Since posting the original post I have heard from 9 ordained baptists who became ucc to avoid this problem. I wonder if the same thing happens among lay people?
July 2, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Zach Roberts
I do know that as I talk to young ministers and Div. school students, many of them say they wish there were more Alliance churches they could serve in so they don’t have to hide their posture on the subject. The fact that this is a non-issue to many young clergy (especially those coming out of the moderate/liberal Baptists tradition) should be a matter of concern for CBF. For all the studies on why young clergy are not going into their churches, they are missing a key reason right here.
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July 3, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Justin
Zach,
This is a great point, esp. with Tripp’s example as an exclamation mark! For the CBF’s talk of “focusing on young ministers”, they certainly don’t seem to be listening to them and their needs/frustrations. To me, this is simply more evidence that they haven’t gotten past the CBF as a “good ‘ol boys” club that many of us young ministers have complained about in the past.
I’m not saying this to complain, but I believe the words used by CBF were, “we want to invest more in our young ministers.” I, and many other people I have talked with, do not feel “invested in” by CBF. Why is it that we are not scared to discuss these issues, and we would prob. do so in a loving way…a conversation… and yet we are not being utilized. If they are afraid of what will happen if the topic is breached, then turn it over to those of us who are young and are the “emerging voices” who cherish honest, open, and authentic dialog. But I’m sure it seems we either “lack the experience” and are too young to be trusted with said responsibilities.
July 4, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Al
I joked about a “takeover from the left” when you posted this on Facebook, but after talking to Justin at our local Borders it seems that we face the same kind of “silencing” from the moderate that resulted in the SBC takeover and eventual creation of CBF. The difference, however, is that we will not need the CBF moniker and will simply “shake off the very dust from our feet”. Prophetic or not, CBF’s existence relies on engaging the younger ministers in the ministries and situations this world offers rather than the same tiring debates of the past.
July 4, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Jo Ann W. Goodson
I am so very proud of all the young ministers that have spoken out on this subject and have also chastised CBF. I sent an email to the national CBF expressing my opinion on what they did. I encourage each of you to do the same. I also aplaud the “older” ministers who, along with Dr. Tupper, continue to try their best to bring us to the place where these conversations/discussions have and can continue to take place. We need more time and places to have open dialogue in our churches not just in coffee houses and other outside places. Keep up the good work.